Order of scanning of remaining counties
We thought we’d give you an update on the remaining counties and approximately when they will appear on the site. Please note that the dates are highly approximate, but we prefer to give you a rough guide rather than a concrete date that might not be accurate.
The list below is the order of scanning the documents: this might not necessarily be the order the counties actually appear on the site but it should be reasonably close.
The remaining English counties should all be available on the site within two months - the best indication we can give for Wales, Islands and Military at present is summer 2009 but we hope this is more useful than saying nothing! As soon as we can give a closer indication on specific counties and a better steer on Wales, we will.
Order of scanning:
- Yorkshire, East Riding (with York)
- Yorkshire, North Riding
- Durham
- Northumberland
- Cumberland
- Westmorland
- Monmouthshire
- Glamorganshire
- Carmarthenshire
- Pembrokeshire
- Cardiganshire
- Brecknockshire
- Radnorshire
- Montgomeryshire
- Flintshire
- Denbighshire
- Merionethshire
- Carnarvonshire
- Anglesey
- Isle of Man
- Guernsey
- Jersey
- Alderney
- Sark
- Royal Navy
- Military
Tags: additional, counties, england, islands, military, naval, wales
February 6th, 2009 at 5:56 pm
Thankyou.
I cannot even begin to imagine what it will be like to search on the 1911 Census.
I cannot believe that you will actually allow us to do so.
One question - can you speak to your colleagues on the “1901″ Census, and try to find out WHEN Northumberland and Durham will be available to search for 1901?
YES, happy 1911 Census searchers - we do NOT even have 1901 yet. What do you (readers of this in the South of England) think about that then? You didn’t know that did you?
February 6th, 2009 at 7:14 pm
I just hope Northumberland comes on line before my units run out !!
February 6th, 2009 at 10:33 pm
Roll on the Channel Islands is all I say. I’ve been lucky in that all my mainland queries were in the London Essex area. So I know I shouldn’t complain, but theres this one ancestor, grrrrrrrrr…………
February 6th, 2009 at 11:21 pm
Well, Peter, I’m in the south of England but have Durham ancestors. I haven’t had a problem finding them on the 1901 census because I subscribe to Ancestry!
February 7th, 2009 at 8:54 am
Yes Jo, they are on Ancestry. My point is that this organisation here (findmypast.com) that is running this 1911 Census site has lots of the UK on its “1901″ site also - but guess which areas it HAS and guess which areas it does NOT HAVE on the 1901 site? As a clue - it is . . . er . . . ‘very similar’ to the 1911 situation.
I only ask - how would you feel to be told you are so unimportant, we will bypass your needs all the time . . for every thing? Would you feel GRRRREAT?
February 7th, 2009 at 11:19 am
OOo freaky I just asked about the remaining counties and an estimated time of release on another post, when I came back to the main site it was here
Thanks v much, I’m also waiting for Durham……..and East Ridings so it’s good to have an idea of when they might be expected!!
Peter, I did know but also like Jo subscribe to Ancestry for all other censuses
Not that that helps with my Durham ancestors cos I think they hid on census night in 1901 anyway LOL
February 7th, 2009 at 12:08 pm
I use Ancestry as well and would have been lost without it for my North Eastern cumberland roots.
I am saddened that the facility to “narrow” the search, especially when I have all smith and williams, before buying has been removed.
Seems very churlish and now I cant risk any when it comes unless I am certian rather than purchase when I am sure I have the corrct Smith.
I look forward to the Northumberland, Durham and Cumberland 1911.
But please restore the “address” find “loophole” as I expect you consider it. You will make more mony from genealogists, not less. We are all struggling for a penny at the moment, help us make sure we spend wisely, rather than not at all.
February 7th, 2009 at 12:09 pm
apologies for typo, keyboard needs new batteries and cant get out to buy some…..snow…
February 7th, 2009 at 2:59 pm
Pleeease get more people on the job with the other records. I shall not be able to cope with the frustration of waiting until the summer; my father’s family were from Monmouthshire, my mother’s family were from Montgomeryshire, my gt. grandfather was away at sea and his ‘real’ family (as opposed to his bigamous marriage to my gt. grandmother!) were from Jersey. At the risk of sounding paranoid, did you design the scanning tiometable specifically to frustrate me….?!
February 7th, 2009 at 3:27 pm
My credits are therefore going to run out before the remainder of what I have to search for comes online - namely, Wales.
It makes a mockery of buying more credits (to get the documents at a cheaper rate) if you can’t actually use them!
February 8th, 2009 at 6:21 pm
What looks like an anti-northern bias is due to TNA’s piece number order, which has been followed since the 1851 census was catalogued, so you can blame whichever bright spark came up with that. However, the piece numbers for 1841 are in alphabetical order, which put Durham and Cumberland way up in the running order, just for once.
When the 1881 census was first indexed, about 20 years ago, the counties were released as they were completed, starting with the smallest, which was Flintshire. The last to be completed were Lancashire, Yorkshire and …London, because they were the biggest and therefore took longest.
You win some, you lose some. Durham is the only English county where I have any family interest, so I am waiting patiently. It will be over two years before I get to see any of my actual ancestors, who were all in Scotland, so a couple of months for the distant cousins doesn’t seem too bad.
Taking the really long view, though, at least I will have a 1931 census to look forward to, assuming I live that long and have retained enough marbles to appreciate it.
#you win some, you lose some!
February 11th, 2009 at 4:39 pm
Can I ask why (in your note of Friday, February 6th, 2009 at 2:57 pm, filed under Data, Service update) in your list of counties not yet done, you link Westmorland in with the Welsh counties?
Just out of interest.
February 13th, 2009 at 12:52 pm
Could you please be a bit more specifically vague about the release of the other Counties. The world does not end at the equator just as the Census of England and Wales does not end at the Welsh border. South of the equator it is Summer in December, will we be waiting until then? You are dealing with an international market, would you please stop using northern hemisphere seasons for your speculative release dates.
February 13th, 2009 at 3:58 pm
Peter - unless I’m mistaken, there’s a space in between Westmorland and the start of the Welsh counties - they’re not linked together at all, but rather with the rest of the remaining English counties?
February 13th, 2009 at 9:16 pm
ha ha Anonymous - there is a space NOW !!!!!
The space beforehand (up to and including Feb 11th, when I wrote my comment) was between Cumberland and Westmorland - which beautifully demonstrated how much these guys know (or care) about anywhere very far from their own Southern base.
They have now changed it, but they did not have the courage to comment on it!
We have nothing on the 1901 Census site and we have nothing on the 1911 Census site. But, that’s ok, isn’t it. (Cose it iz guv)
February 14th, 2009 at 8:00 am
@Peter: I’m happy to clarify that we have changed the spacing of the list. It was a simple typographical error rather than a lack of geographical knowledge but feel free to speculate further…
@Davey: I’m happy to clarify that we were referring to British summer, which is generally considered to fall (briefly) between June and September. Apologies to any in the Southern hemisphere who may have been confused by this.
February 14th, 2009 at 1:28 pm
My Scottish research has to wait for two more years. I am disappointed that Durham & Northumberland arnt on yet but I’m happy to have a time scale. Most of my family is from those two counties but I have been fortunate to find relatives in Oxfordshire, Warwickshire & Worcestershire. The actual page is brilliant. It is wonderful to be able to see the handwriting of my relatives. I wondered if two months means that May?
February 14th, 2009 at 2:25 pm
@Iantester: can you clarify if credits will be extended to cover the whole of the release period, or will I have to buy new ones for Wales and use the current credits I have on some random not-really-family member? Mine are due to run out in a month and a half, which is well before June - the earliest you say Wales will be available.
February 15th, 2009 at 5:29 pm
Many thanks for that - even if the news isn’t what I’d hoped for, the openess is appreciated. Do you plan to release each county as it becomes available (i.e. one-by-one) or in batches?
February 16th, 2009 at 9:11 am
@Anonymous: I’ll check on this and get back to you.
February 16th, 2009 at 9:19 am
@Andrew: as fast as we can, basically. Sometimes a couple of counties pop out at once, in which case it is quicker/easier to do a single data load rather than separate ones.
February 16th, 2009 at 9:27 am
@all: I am happy to confirm that if you have 90 day credits that are due to expire before the remaining counties are available, we will happily extend them for you.
Please contact Customer Support to do (no sooner than 2 weeks before your credits are due to expire, thanks!).
February 16th, 2009 at 4:37 pm
iantester, I take my hat off to you!!
I’m as interested as the next person to see the rest of the counties be released - especially Yorks - but do appreciate all the hard work that must be going on behind the scenes.
I for one will practice some patience & won’t take it personally that you started with southern counties!
February 16th, 2009 at 7:56 pm
@Michele: thanks: we can’t get everything right but we’ll try to get somewhere in the vague proximity
February 16th, 2009 at 11:54 pm
A HUGE THANKYOU to all who are involved with the census. All of my family tree ancestors are from Cumberland, I’m really excited to see I only have around a 2 month wait, that’s fast work considering the amount to be done.
February 19th, 2009 at 5:40 am
When are the images for the piece RG14PN24750 going to go online?
The transcripts are there but NO images.
February 19th, 2009 at 9:24 am
@Sharon: thanks for reporting this. I will ask the technical team to look into it asap - they should be there already, it looks like there may be a bug in uploading some of those images which we will attempt to correct as soon as we can.
February 19th, 2009 at 11:57 am
@Sharon - it looks like we are missing about 350 images from this piece in total - we have the images but not the redacted images (i.e with the disability column cut out) so this is why they are currently not online. We have raised a ticket to chase them and get them uploaded and I’ll let you know when there’s further news.
Thanks for reporting this, it’s very helpful!
February 20th, 2009 at 11:58 am
When will the entries for mental institutions such as Broadmoor come online? It would be good if it’s soon, but I suspect that they are covered by the same regulation which prevents you opening the extreme right hand column of the records.
February 20th, 2009 at 7:54 pm
@David Blake: actually, you are in luck. These institutions will be included and are not subject to the Information Commissioner’s ruling. I can’t remember exactly which part of Yorkshire Broadmoor is located in, but if not the West Riding it will be one of the next pieces of data to be released.
February 21st, 2009 at 10:44 pm
“I can’t remember exactly which part of Yorkshire Broadmoor is located in, but if not the West Riding it will be one of the next pieces of data to be released.”
No. Ian, Broadmoor is not in the West Riding of Yorkshire …….
………. it’s in Berkshire.
February 22nd, 2009 at 4:30 pm
iantester : actually Broadmoor is in Crowthorne, Berkshire.
February 23rd, 2009 at 9:09 am
@Marie, Pauline: thanks for the correction!
February 23rd, 2009 at 9:37 am
@Sharon: we have now received the images for RG14PN24750 and uploaded them. Do let us know if you spot any other pieces with missing images!
March 5th, 2009 at 5:43 pm
Hi,
Can you tell me if there is a date for when Monmouthshire & Glamorgan will be available?
Many Thanks
Mat
March 23rd, 2009 at 1:47 pm
I see from your ‘next to be scanned’ list that Denbighshire is 16th!
So when do you think this will be?
No point in paying for credits if Denbighshire and Flintshire are not going to be on line in the next 6 months.
Regards
Angela.
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:29 pm
@Angela - the whole of Wales will be complete by summer so only a few months to wait.
Welsh counties are relatively fast to scan and transcribe because of the low population numbers in 1911 so they will come through much more quickly than English ones.
March 25th, 2009 at 6:33 am
Do you need any help with the transcribing of the Wales 1911 Census?
March 30th, 2009 at 10:13 am
Summertime begins today ( officially) so when will Wales be online? it should be measured in weeks now surely? Idea of date much appreciated.
March 30th, 2009 at 10:52 am
@Mary - thanks for the offer but it’s all under control with the help of many Family History Societies in Wales
@Jo: it’s not in weeks (easy tiger!) but most if not all of Wales should be complete by July.
March 30th, 2009 at 10:53 am
@Angela: we will extend any credits on request whilst we are getting the final counties online, so feel free to dabble now!
April 4th, 2009 at 1:00 pm
Please hurry up with Wales! I am going to burst!
Why can’t we ever be first for a change? other than Rugby of course, haha
April 23rd, 2009 at 4:09 am
How likely is it we will see a couple of the Welsh counties released in early May?
May 4th, 2009 at 2:43 am
I am impatiently awaiting the Glamorgan records to come online - I find myself checking almost daily (even though I know I will get an update email) the anticipation is killing me! This will be the first census with my Grandfather on as he came to Cardiff c1905.
May 5th, 2009 at 3:12 am
I too am marking time waiting for Glamorganshire to come on-line…:-(
The sun is out, the leaves are on the trees, it doesn’t get dark now until nearly 9.00pm, - surely summer is here?
Can you at least give us some idea of how much longer we have to wait??
May 6th, 2009 at 6:05 am
@iantester
Is there any more news regarding the Welsh Counties please? it’s taking sooo loooong ….
May 6th, 2009 at 7:40 am
I’m really looking forward to seeing the Glamorgan census, too!
May 7th, 2009 at 8:22 am
There’s something wrong with the times on this Blog…
I might be waiting anxiously for Glamorgan to go ‘live’, - but there’s no way that I’d be posting at 3.12am!!
Please adjust when you get round to replying.
Isobel. (7.00pm by my watch, & the BBC News).
May 8th, 2009 at 9:14 am
100% Welsh so therefore no Saes to look up whilst waiting for Welsh counties to go on line. Welsh records are always last on thes sites and it is my belief that this is all to do with Cash. The South East of England is the most densly populated part of GB therefore the odds are that the mony will come in quiker if the South East records go online first. I reckon anyone wanting Welsh Records should get a discount for being made to wait so long