New counties added: Yorkshire North & East ridings, Durham
We have added another 3 counties, the keenly-awaited Yorkshire North & East ridings and Durham. All three counties are searchable as of now.
The next data release will be the final 3 English counties: Cumberland, Northumberland, Westmorland. We estimate these are approximately a month away.
Enjoy - let us know what you find.
March 17th, 2009 at 9:50 am
Found our first ancestors in Durham at 8.30 this morning 17/3/09. Excellent project management, beating the date given to users, thank you.
March 17th, 2009 at 10:57 am
Durham and Northumberland are what are needed so strongly (they are completely linked). Is there anything that can be done to speed up Northumberland . . . please???
March 17th, 2009 at 11:40 am
OMG I am so excited, and yet so sad…am at work and won’t be able to search properly till later!!
Thank you all for your hard work!!
March 17th, 2009 at 12:10 pm
After all this waiting the couple I most NEED to find appear to have moved over the water from Durham into Northumberland!!! Another wait.
@Ian, is all County Durham loaded?
My Great, great granparents were in a certain house in 1901 and my grand mother (with an unusual name) was born in the same house in 1907, my great aunt in 1910 and my father in 1930 but they are not showing up on the searches!
March 17th, 2009 at 12:12 pm
[...] 1911 census New counties added: Yorkshire North & East ridings, Durham March 17th, 2009 We have added another 3 counties, the keenly-awaited Yorkshire North & East [...]
March 17th, 2009 at 12:15 pm
Thank you for the new counties,
but where is Gateshead?
March 17th, 2009 at 12:21 pm
Does anyone know what has happened to Gateshead in Co. Durham? A number of my ancestors lived there and there do not appear to be results for them nor does Gateshead District appear in any of the search results.
March 17th, 2009 at 12:22 pm
I agree with Peter. I am sure Findmypast cash flow will rocket up when Northumberland comes on line. Any chance of splitting it off from Cumberland and Westmorland?
March 17th, 2009 at 12:52 pm
@Ian, I can’t even find ANY of the Streets in the village.
If you email me I’ll tell you which village it is.
March 17th, 2009 at 2:03 pm
I can’t find any records for the district of Gateshead which was in Durham. Is this going to be included with the Northumberland data?
March 17th, 2009 at 2:40 pm
Could you confirm whether all the districts for Co Durham are now online? I haven’t been able to trace any of my ancestors from the Gateshead area.
March 17th, 2009 at 2:52 pm
Well done everyone for getting Durham online and keeping us so well informed throughout the process - I’m sure I speak for the majority in saying we really do appreciate all your efforts and the regular progress updates.
March 17th, 2009 at 3:45 pm
Okay got the Durham ancestors!
Can you please tell me when you’ll get the 1921 census online!!!
March 17th, 2009 at 4:06 pm
@Gash - 2021 unless an Act of Parliament is passed to annul the 1920 Census Act….
@ all those looking for Gateshead - in 1911 it was included in the county of Northumberland as was the whole of Newcastle…..unfortunately Durham stopped at South Shields > Jarrow. There’s not a lot we can do about county boundary changes but this will be the next data release.
And despite the intimation of a wealth of riches from favouring the North East over Cumbrians, it would actually not be substantially faster to separate the counties because of the sheer amount of time it takes to prepare each upload.
@Paul: have you looked at the posts on the blog relating to address search tips? Addresses are a pain in the 1911 census because a. they were erratically recorded by householders b. to compound this, they were recorded in a very small space on the form, leading to horrendous abbreviations. We are working to enhance them but for the moment a degree of lateral thinking is needed to get round the limitations of the data provided by the census. Let us know the address / village and we will have a hunt tomorrow, see what we can find.
March 17th, 2009 at 4:19 pm
Ian,
The villages I am looking for, although not Gateshead, are now in the Gateshead Metropolitan District and in 1911 were in the Gateshead Registration District, i.e. Blaydon, Whickham Swalwell and Ryton, so it looks like I’ll have to wait for Northumberland.
Thanks anyway.
March 17th, 2009 at 5:12 pm
The counties of Cumberland and Westmorland and Northumberland are also ‘keenly awaited’. It’s not only sheep that populate these counties!
March 17th, 2009 at 5:19 pm
ok gateshead has changed from durham to northuberland so when will northumberland be on line how much longer do we have to wait ? !!!!
March 17th, 2009 at 5:53 pm
I wasted a considerbale amount of time and money looking for my Gateshead relatives in Durham. Even the sister site 1911census.org, which promotes the official site, states that Gateshead comes under Durham.
What a fiddle! How about a refund?
County Durham (not yet available in the online 1911 census, expected during March)
1911 census districts …. Auckland, Chester le Street, Darlington, Durham, Easington, Gateshead, Hartlepool, Houghton le Spring, Lanchester, Sedgefield, South Shields, Stockton, Sunderland, Teesdale and Weardale
March 17th, 2009 at 6:59 pm
Ian you are incorrect about Gateshead. Gateshead has never been in the County of Northumberland. How on earth could it have been left out? What sort of timescale are you looking at to complete county Durham and to include the other counties.
March 17th, 2009 at 9:05 pm
Ian - Many thanks for clarifying the position re Gateshead. On a technicality, the reason for its inclusion with the Enumeration Districts of Northumberland will have been based on ease of logistics rather than a boundary change; Gateshead has historically always been in County Durham until the creation by the Local Government Act 1972 of Tyne & Wear Metropoliatan County (effective from 1974).
Oh well, a wait of another month is not too bad when I should be able to pick up all of my relatives in Newcastle and Gateshead. Having a family history based almost exclusively in the far north of England has always been a test of one’s patience and I echo the feelings of other contributors on this blog and share their frustration. I recall the migration of the 1841-1901 census on CD-ROM a number of years ago when we were one of the last to be released. At least we can comfort ourselves that we are not at the very back of the queue, like Wales.
If all of this sounds like a whinge, it’s not. We are grateful for the sterling work being done; the communications and interactivity with users are good and the quality of the indices far surpasses anything else I have seen thus far.
March 17th, 2009 at 9:25 pm
Where is Gateshead? Was Gateshead not part of Durham County in 1911?
March 18th, 2009 at 7:18 am
Poor old Cumbria, lef to last again
March 18th, 2009 at 8:20 am
Iantester
Any ideas when the damaged volumes for Doncaster may be ready?
March 18th, 2009 at 8:54 am
@Phil - not aware of any - I will check and find out if there’s anything outstanding for Doncaster.
@Others - thanks for the clarification of boundary changes: however, for the purpose of collecting and enumerating the 1911 census, I can confirm that Gateshead is within Northumberland rather than Durham. Those pesky Edwardian civil servants, eh?
@richard - 1911census.org.uk is unconnected with us and we cannot therefore take responsibility for any inaccuracies in their statement of registration districts. Please raise the matter with the owners of that website.
Talking of Gateshead, we will be visiting a family history fair there in September if anyone fancies coming to say hello.
March 18th, 2009 at 9:24 am
Iantester - Thanks for your reply, the following link mentions two volumes (Doncaster and Knaresborough).
http://www.1911census.co.uk/content/default.aspx?r=24&106
March 18th, 2009 at 2:35 pm
@Phil: ah yes, the hospitalised volumes. I’m happy to confirm that they are scanned, transcribed and live on site now - Yorkshire West Riding is complete and we will update the page to reflect that. Thanks for letting us know about the info being out of date!
March 18th, 2009 at 2:37 pm
I think you should put a note up on the blog (and on the drop down menu) saying that Newcastle and Gateshead are missing. I’ve just wasted a number of credits clicking on wrong ancestors as I couldn’t find the correct ones … who I knew lived in Gateshead.
March 18th, 2009 at 2:55 pm
Not a whole month please….I am so disappointed not to have Gateshead and Dearham.
I do hope you can speed it up a bit.Gateshead was always in County Durham.
Northumberland??? Why, that was only north of the river….
March 18th, 2009 at 3:04 pm
@haddo. I’ve clarified it with a new post.
They are not missing per se, they were simply enumerated as part of another county. We’re seeing if we can find some background info on this as this is not how it worked for the 1901 census when they were enumerated with the rest of Durham.
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March 18th, 2009 at 4:36 pm
Regarding the confusion over which county Gateshead was ‘in’, if I search for a Gateshead address I will be searching in County Durham because that’s where Gateshead was in 1911. Will the anomalous allocation of Gateshead to Northumberland affect the county I must use for my searches, if so then many, many people will be totally confused by the new geography!
March 18th, 2009 at 6:36 pm
Thank you so much, it has been a breeze to locate some more of my family since the Yorkshire additions yesterday and I’m thrilled. To everyone involved with scanning, transcriptions and whatever else you have to do - keep up the great work!
March 18th, 2009 at 10:05 pm
Thanks for loading the rest of Yorkshire onto the site- since yesterday I’ve found a few more family members, solved a few riddles and found a couple of surprises in with the bargain (including an alleged son of a Lord living with my family as an adopted son- that one needs some more investigation!)
Keep up the good work
March 18th, 2009 at 11:08 pm
Why are people moaning about the wait?
There are a lot of people waiting for a subscription option to become available. Looks like we will have the longest wait of all
Any dateplanned yet?
March 22nd, 2009 at 7:58 pm
I was looking forward to finding my North Yorkshire family on here now, but still can’t find them
I’ve tried wildcard searches in all forms, I’m beginning to think my family emmigrated and came back again because I can’t find any of them.
Its a shame the site doesnt show where people were born when you do the search so I din’t have to pay a fortune for missed hits!!
March 23rd, 2009 at 12:53 pm
Looking for people in Darlington - does this come under Co Durham or where the borders different in 1911. Thanks
March 25th, 2009 at 5:51 pm
I think it is a disgrace that the South of England should take place over the rest of Britain, even when the north east of England gets it turn they still cant get it right Gateshead has always been in c/o durham not Nortumberland.
March 27th, 2009 at 10:41 pm
Is anyone else suffering from missing images in the supposedly recently added counties of Yorkshire, North & East Ridings?
I have been trying almost daily since 17th March (10 days ago!) to view the original image for my great grandfather and his son, my grandad. He was James Jeffries, born 1866 and living in the area of Middlesbrough; very definitely within the N Riding, Yorks. All I get is a blank “Image Comment” page with the message “We are sorry but the image is not currently available”.
I’ve contacted Find My Past Customer Support twice about this but just get standard (computer generated?) responses saying things like “This image is currently in the process of being uploaded to our server” or “The image will be uploaded as fast as we can get it up for you”!
So it seems that these counties have not been made fully available yet after all. I was just wondering if anyone else was having, or has had, the same trouble and if anyone knew how long we will have to wait to actually get the Yorkshire, North & East Ridings online?
March 28th, 2009 at 7:30 am
@PJ - can you let me know the Piece Number (PN)? This is the code at the bottom of the transcript and starts RG14 XXXXXX.
March 28th, 2009 at 5:15 pm
I haven’t looked at the transcript. I normally don’t bother unless I have to choose between different possible entries!
A search for JEFFRIES, JAMES / Place of Residence - Middlesbrough or Yorkshire North Riding / Year of Birth - 1866 or 1867 produces just the one result, if that’s any use?
March 30th, 2009 at 8:36 am
Is there any problem with the Hull area? I can’t find any of my ancestors in the Hull area & there were a number of them, all with the same surname, but nothing whatsoever is turning up on the searches I’ve done.
March 30th, 2009 at 9:40 am
@Helen; no known problems with the Hull area - I have just searched for Smiths in Hull and found over a thousand of them.
@PJ: the piece number is 29321 - I’ll investigate why the images are not there.
March 30th, 2009 at 2:34 pm
Thanks for that! I have just discovered that if I look for McFadden or Macfadden it comes up with nothing - but if I look for “names beginning with” Mc it does produce results. Why is that?
March 30th, 2009 at 2:43 pm
@helen - strange. It looks as though all Mc-starting names have been transcribed (or perhaps standardised later) with a space between the “Mc” and rest of name. So if you search by “Mc Fadden” rather than “Mcfadden” this should work OK.
March 30th, 2009 at 8:09 pm
Would some kind person please advise what has happened to the data on SELBY in NORTH YORKSHIRE
March 31st, 2009 at 10:01 am
@Jimbat: although it may by in N Yorkshire now, in 1911 it was in the East Riding, which is where you’ll find it in the search tool. HTH, happy hunting!
March 31st, 2009 at 7:11 pm
@iantester & helen - I spotted the problem with Mc names during the Christmas beta period, while looking for my McInnes rellies. I provided feedback at the time. It seems some names were transcibed/indexed with the space, some without. This is still the situation.