All English counties now complete
Overnight, we have uploaded records for the remaining English Counties (Northumberland, Cumberland, Westmorland) and added the missing Gateshead district records into the county of Durham (they were incorrectly listed as part of Northumberland - this is now fixed and they are searchable under Durham, as they should be).
Therefore all English counties are now complete.
Scanning of Welsh records is well underway and we are working on the transcriptions of the first batch of Welsh counties, which will be the next data release. Although we do not have a precise release date for them yet, we anticipate that we will have some data from Wales available in the next 4 to 6 weeks.
Tags: complete, Cumberland, england, northumberland, wales, welsh, Westmorland
April 8th, 2009 at 11:15 am
Have searched this census for my G/Grandfather John McMahon, who should have been living in Jarrow in 1911, with no luck. How come when I search the 1901 census there are 225 John McMahons in the whole country, but in 1911 there are only 17? Are the records complete? (can’t find any trace of his wife and their son, my grandad, also)
April 8th, 2009 at 11:31 am
@Andy: try “Mc Mahon” with a space after the Mc…..
April 8th, 2009 at 12:39 pm
Have searched the household transcripts and was wondering why the Infirmity column has been blanked out? I know its sensitive information but the people within all the households Ive searched are all long dead. What difference would it make to see this information now?
April 8th, 2009 at 1:28 pm
@Clare: all explained on the main site
http://www.1911census.co.uk/content/default.aspx?r=24&101
April 8th, 2009 at 2:44 pm
Many thanks for finishing on schedule. You said before Easter, and before Easter it was!
April 8th, 2009 at 2:52 pm
Clare:
I was very pleased to be able to give to a lady yesterday a copy of her entry, aged 17 months,on the census : they’re not all dead, d’you know
I am glad to report she was delightes to see her father’s signature for the irst time in many, many decades!!!
Regards
John UK
April 8th, 2009 at 9:29 pm
Thanks Ian, definitely a lot more choices, but still can’t trace them. Will reconsider options.
April 9th, 2009 at 6:49 am
I have just done a search on “Mcmahon”, and it came up with 208 hits.
Perhaps there was a glitch that has now been fixed!
April 9th, 2009 at 6:51 am
OOPS! Misread your original message.
You were looking for “John Mcmahon”.
April 9th, 2009 at 9:05 am
There is an interesting article in the Newcastle Journal (our Regional daily morning newspaper) about the 1911 Census, now that it covers the entire Newcastle area (Northumberland as well as Durham)
http://www.journallive.co.uk/north-east-news/todays-news/2009/04/09/1911-census-now-available-online-61634-23350624/
The ‘online’ article doesn’t seem to show all the photos that were in the article in the actual hard-copy newspaper, from 1911 itself, and it also reproduced some extracts from the reporters own family on Census Return, from 1911. He was thrilled to see things written in his own great-grandparents writing.
April 9th, 2009 at 12:02 pm
@ John. I think you misunderstood me I was meaning members of my family nobody else. Its lovely to know that you were able to give the lady in question a copy of the census entry which had her details on.
April 9th, 2009 at 12:45 pm
All of Gloucestershire is not included
A large chunk which includes the Forest of dean area is not currently included. I have searched on many persons and place names from the area.
Possibly may in included in Monmouth but it is Gloucestershire. Any idea why it is omitted and when it will be added?
April 9th, 2009 at 1:42 pm
Hi - I’m getting all counties on a place search, but still getting Northumberland as not yet available on people search - any idea when this will be sorted out please? I don’t know my families addresses for sure, and you can waste hundreds of credits checking all the possibilities!
April 9th, 2009 at 1:58 pm
Aha, I started from the home page again, and have found someone with People search this time - hoorah!
April 9th, 2009 at 3:26 pm
Ian, got there! Searched on a sister and found them. Now my dad tells me that was how he was brought up to write the surname Mc Mahon. Many thanks for your help, it made the link to further back.
April 9th, 2009 at 4:54 pm
Well that was disappointing!
I’ve spent 5 years trying to search or my Great-grandmother Edna Violet Ida Hannson. She said she was born in 1892, had brothers Clifford, Bernard and father Maurice, and that she lived in Jesmond Dene (Northumberland). She doesn’t seem to have a birth certificate, and doesn’t appear on the 1901 census. I’ve held out and held out, adament that she’ll appear on the 1911….not a trace!
If anyone out there has more energy than me (and lets be honest, half the fun is in the search!) and feels like giving her a search then be my guest! I think it may finally be time to give up - she clearly doesn’t want to be found
(Thank you though for putting the Northumberland stuff on-line though and giving me the chance!)
(And I’ve tried every variation of Hannson you can think of….but please, someone else try before I resign myself to the idea that she never even existed!)
April 10th, 2009 at 5:58 am
I’m having a real problem. There’s a pile of streets in Chopwell, that don’t show in up Durham/Northumberland, that I believe were built in 1907:
Ramsay Road, Greenhead Terrace, Derwent View.
Ramsay Road was where the Mine officials lived, so I would have expected it to be there, unless they all avoided the census.
There is a whole family of Taylors (father Matthew Taylor, who was Undermanager at the pit) who I can’t find. Any ideas?
April 10th, 2009 at 10:22 am
The only one I could find (I searched under each one of the three first-names, individually) is . . . HANSON VIOLET M / Female / Born 1907 / Age 4 / Alnwick.
This is probably not her as she lived (you say) in the ‘Jesmond Dene’ area of Jesmond in Newcastle (same area of Newcastle that I have lived in since 1962!!)
Anyway, I tried.
April 10th, 2009 at 10:38 am
I think the prices asked for the 1911 Census details are outrageous. I for one will be extremely careful about seeking information beyond a very limited family area.
I see that at some point one may be able to view street neighbours, but if the costs of viewing are in line with the present pricing I shall not br doinfg a lot of browsing.
I tried to print out directly from the household transcript and all I got was a printed solid black page. So I downloaded to my computer - the printing offered shjould be disabled and one should be directed to the download button.
Whoever did the transcription of my family house seem to think that a person clearly stated not to have had children had miraculously had twins.
April 10th, 2009 at 8:39 pm
Hannah,
I am assuming that you have her name from either her marriage cert or from the birth certificate of your grandparent?
Is it possible that she was adopted and changed her name, in which case there would be no birth record in that name.
I have check on the free BMD site, and also the pilot of the irish records that the latter day saints have set up but no luck even with a seach from 1885 to 1905 just in case she was fibbing about her age
Good luck with the searching and hope you make the link
April 10th, 2009 at 8:46 pm
Hannah,
a further check on Ancestry shows a Edna Hanson born Q2 of 1893 in bradford Vol 9b Page 17.
This is the closest match to the info that you gave.
I also checked Scotland’s people and there are no matches there between 1885 and 1905 for an Edna Hanson with the soundex on
April 11th, 2009 at 7:37 pm
Hannah,
You’re right your great grandma doesn’t/didn’t exist LOL
Why don’t you post a request for help on a board such as Rootschat.com or the Ancestry message boards? There’s usually someone around with local knowledge or access to parish records who are more than willing to help.
April 12th, 2009 at 4:21 pm
@Hannah
Looking at various sources there appears to be alot of Hansons from Yorkshire, including some of the names you mentioned, so maybe your Hansons ancestors came from Yorkshire instead?
April 14th, 2009 at 7:17 am
@Stephen: the printing option does work on all printers that we tested, so it may be an anomaly with your driver which we for some reason do not support. If you are having ongoing problems, we’d agree with your method of downloading the image to your computer, then opening it with image viewing software or a browser, and printing from that.
You’ll also be happy to know that the extra images will be included within 30 credits when they arrive, so next extra cost to you there.
Finally, the transcribers only work from what is on the original schedule - so if there is an error (i.e a difference between the schedule and the transcript), please use the button on the transcript to report the error and we’ll put it right.
April 14th, 2009 at 7:22 am
@John Zed: I’ve just had a quick look doing a very basic search (Street = ramsay, county = durham). There is a Ramsay Road recorded in a village about a mile away - could that be the one?
Another thing to consider is changed street names - there doesn’t appear to be a lot for Greenhead, but I can see that there is a short terrace called Balfour Terrace near Greenhead stables and the police station - could that be the one with the name changed later? Hope that helps - I’ll leave the detective work too those of you with local knowledge!
April 14th, 2009 at 2:37 pm
@iantester; thanks for looking, but I still think there is something fishy.
My great great grandfather actually built two of the streets in Chopwell. William & Elizabeth Street.
And documentation on the web actually names those three streets.
My dad’s cousin, who’s also from Chopwell remembers the streets.
Because Chopwell is a small place it’s possible to do wildcard search and list all of the addresses. And regardless, my great grandfather who we know to be in Chopwell in 1911, doesn’t appear to be in the Census.
April 14th, 2009 at 3:01 pm
Actually Ramsay Road is probably what I was after - still can’t find the Taylors!
April 18th, 2009 at 9:03 pm
Thank you for the hard work so far, I’ve found all families in the released counties but like many others, am eagerly awaiting the release of the Welsh counties to continue my research. Can you please advise which Welsh counties will be released first, I understand we are looking at mid to late May. Many Thanks
April 21st, 2009 at 6:36 am
Re Paul’s comment on April 9 about the Forest of Dean being missing, the Lydney and Coleford areas (although parts of Gloucestershire) were usually included in the Chepstow and Monmouth enumeration districts respectively. So, strictly speaking, not all of all English counties are now complete! Well done to the team for getting so much online, although they’ve claimed a little more than they’ve actually done. I notice there’s no official response to Paul’s query.
April 21st, 2009 at 7:05 am
Just want to say a big thank you for all your hard work. I have now successfully traced all my family members. So my family tree is pretty updated now.
April 21st, 2009 at 7:21 am
@iantester Do you know the order that the Welsh counties will be released?
April 22nd, 2009 at 1:54 am
@Peter: this is covered in an earlier blog post.
April 22nd, 2009 at 1:57 am
@Paul and Alan: Alan is correct - small parts of the Forest of Dean were enumerated as part of Wales. So if we are being 100% accurate, we should say “All districts of England enumerated as England are now complete”.
April 28th, 2009 at 3:25 am
John Zed, be careful, I would guess that Ramsay Road, although described by iantester as about a mile away, is the street you want. It was (is) at the top of the village, and it would make sense for the Mine officials to have lived here as “the Officials” Social Club was on this road.
April 29th, 2009 at 12:57 am
@Paul, John - now *that’s* what I call local knowledge! It is really pleasing to us to see people helping others with their research, so thanks!
May 1st, 2009 at 3:14 am
I appreciate your hard work but I was wondering if you have a better idea now of when the next batch of counties will be released. Also, as the Welsh counties are fairly small when it comes to population, does that mean you can release all the Welsh counties in two or even one batch?
May 5th, 2009 at 12:22 pm
I too am wondering if you have anymore news on when Wales will be released.You did say on 8th April- more news in 4-6 weeks
May 6th, 2009 at 8:57 am
Similar to the last question, are you able to give us an idea of the order you will be releasing the Welsh counties ? Thanks.
May 7th, 2009 at 3:07 am
I too am wondering when the Welsh counties will be online. I am particularly interested in Carmarthenshire, Glamorgan and Pembrokeshire.
May 8th, 2009 at 12:03 pm
I have had two problems. They in fact relate to each of my grandmothers.
My maternal grandmother was cook in a large house. I have found her but the household was so large there must have been a continuation sheet which I can’t find despite having asked for help on this.
In 1901 my grandmother was living with her widowed mother and younger brother at an address in Stockport. By 1911 she was married and had moved away. There is no sign anywhere of my great grandmotehr and great uncle in the 1911 census though I know both were still living. Somewhat significantly a whole raft of addresses in Stockport including the address where they were in 1901 is missing though the street is still there now. Were some records left off or have some been lost or destroyed?
August 13th, 2009 at 7:00 am
Re: Edna Hannson
Hi everyone, thank you for searching! I’ve still not got anywhere in finding my great-grandma, but refuse to give up! There must be a link somewhere that she forgot to cover up!
Yes, I think the adopted idea is looking very likely. It would answer a lot of questions. Do you think there would be any adoption records from that time?
Also, does anyone know what documentation you needed to get married in 1920? (Eg birth cert.) Just in case she fabricated a few things!
Thanks again for your time searching everyone!